is can be apocalypse tiem nau??

[kjpepper]

I truly weep for Kidzilla et al's generation, I really do.

“Sesame Street: Old School” labeled adults-only.

*headdesk* I... don't even know where to begin on this one. Remember what I said about having my childhood raped/shat on by someone else's a while back? Yeah, now not only that but it's been labeled highly dysfunctional as well because Cookie Monster not only smokes but eats the damn pipe during Monsterpiece theater.

UGH.

*is firm believer in Hellmo and Zoe being the sharks Sesame Street jumped*

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[cell23.livejournal.com]

I can't decide, should I get my stabbing hand or my slapping hand ready?

We actually only show her old classic SS. Every now and then when she's counting something she'll stop and go "ah-hah-ha!" Frankly, I think even Tully is pushing it. Elmo and Zoe are straight-up no go.

Heh

[bellarisa.livejournal.com]

Ok.

As a kid born in 1972 I'm down with you, you know I am ;)

BUT, as a mom and preschool teacher in 2007 I admit I monitor 'Old School' just a little. I slip in comments about how smoking is "not okay" (Daycare Speak) and how Don Music and Roosevelt Franklin were "awfully rowdy" and we do talk about how to act in class instead of being like them. Something inside you shrivels a little, but these tiny folks are as impressionable as those articles say they are and we have to be the voice of better behavior to an extent (sigh).

Re: Heh

[kjpepper.livejournal.com]

Well, all right, you probably have a valid point and I'm sure my parents did the same and I just don't remember.

I still have this worry that common sense, mental resilience and the ability to survive without rose colored glasses is getting bred out of kids at an increasingly alarming rate...

Re: Heh

[bellarisa.livejournal.com]

I'm 100% with you on the rose colored glasses. These last few generations I've been helping raise since '87 or so are WAY more pampered and sheltered than we were, and I don't just mean little Dakota and Blaine living in the wealthy 'burbs; even the poorer kids with less supervision lack the hutzpah and resilience and self reliance we had to have back in the day. Having said that, since I see so many of my peers smoking despite every After School Special we had telling us not to and still getting a little louder and more violent when provoked than is really necessary, as a mama I find myself making sure I comment on what Grover and Alistair Cookie are doing *just in case* it's getting into my babies' subconscious. I still let them watch, and I laugh at Tom and Jerry beating the crap out of each other right along with my girls (if you heard my youngest laugh as hard as she does at T and J you'd kidnap her), but I remark about how hitting is wrong and such so they know how I feel. I want them as capable and tough as you and I but also knowing how to act...does that make sense?

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[kjpepper.livejournal.com]

man I used to love T&J... thanks, now I gotta go look up the Cat Concerto on Youtube.

[padparadscha.livejournal.com]

Are you kidding? BOO T&J! HOORAY LOONEY TUNES!

*puts up dukes to defend Rhapsody Rabbit*

[retsuko.livejournal.com]

I understand some of the modern day concerns, but... why mess with a working system? My Mom loved "Monsterpiece Theater" and when she explained the joke to me, I felt like I was sharing in a grown-up secret; it never occured to me that smoking was OK. And Oscar the Grouch wouldn't be created today? D: He was my favorite character! Can't kids be taught that you don't have to cheerful all the time?!

I am amused that the word "prozacky" is now a common enough phrase to appear in the NYT, though.

[drklord1922.livejournal.com]

When I watch seasame street now I want to stab myself because frankly its not the same show that it was when we were kids but I would totally let my kids watch the early DVD's. Hell I'll tourture them more by strapping them to a chair and make them watch the Muppet Show. God I hate life and stupid people

[bellarisa.livejournal.com]

Don't watch Sesame Street now, it'll make you want to KILL in the name of Henson. I don't let my kids watch any Sesame before '85 or so, and '83 is questionable (grumble).

To answer Retsuko, the Powers That Be don't think it WAS a working system, they think our generation can't treat each other well and we still can't read. Bullshit, but apparently they have studies...

[chirping-monkey.livejournal.com]

I think that old school sesame street is best served with some Mr. Rodgers on the side. A little bit of calm after the moderate stimulation.

Fuck their studies up the ass.

[bellarisa.livejournal.com]

No no, Mr Rogers scared me in 1975 and he still does, I fully believe he had small children tied up in his basement dressed in tiny sweaters and white sneakers...

[grinninfoole.livejournal.com]

Mr. Rogers is the man.

Check out his inflappable niceness before the US Senate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a41lJIhW7fA

[kittikattie.livejournal.com]

Fucking stupid kids. Throw them in a basement, skip this gen, make a new one.

[padparadscha.livejournal.com]

See, and here I thought the genius of old Sesame Street was that it was watchable for adults as well as kids--hell, it parodied adults' fashions, shows, music, etc.--and actually has some smart things in it. It was hilarious and well-written and not relentlessly NICE.

I also recall, as a kid, assuming that there were some differences between how Muppets functioned and how people functioned--Cookie Monster was a damn blue fuzzy monster. Non-muppets should not be so obsessed with cookies. My somewhat obtuse argument against Ernie and Bert's having a romantic relationship is "but they're Muppets." The people were good role models. The Muppets were MUPPETS. You've got to have foils, right?

Also, the pipe eating was fucking FUNNY, okay?

(I still maintain that the two greatest Christmas specials ever are The Muppet Christmas Carol and the 1983 "Christmas Eve on Sesame Street," the latter of which features Oscar falling down three flights of stairs and smashing though two walls, and later delivering a stream of invective at Big Bird that is drowned out by a subway train. Meanwhile Ernie and Bert parody O. Henry's "The Gift of the Magi." It is awesome.)

[innostrantsa.livejournal.com]

WHAT.

Seriously, FUCK THAT. There are not words to express the sheer BLEEDING ASSCRACK FUCKERY of, of... *EXPLODES*